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September 21st, 2011
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Question about ads and Dreamwidth
At the time I started my LJ (Feb '02), I felt like I was a relatively late adopter of LJ. Now, I'm obscurely proud of my-nearly-decade-old kinda-sorta-blog, even if it doesn't see a lot of activity. (Same as I am of my 20-year-old email address on CIX.)

But every time I post something - such as today's update over on my techie LJ - I get people complaining about the pop-up ads. As I'm logged in, and I run ad-blocking software - which you should do too, if you don't already - I don't see them, but others do.

Is this the never-stated-anywhere-I've-seen reason that LJ-using friends of mine are apparently deserting to Dreamwidth?

I am not paying for an account, by the way - LJ earns me no revenue so I am not paying for it. danacea is urging me to quit LJ and start up what she sees as a "proper blog" on Wordpress or something, which I am also reluctant to do, but clearly, LJ's ads are becoming a major PITA and I have to do something.

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From:andrewducker
Date:September 21st, 2011 06:45 pm (UTC)
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Would you Wordpress be hosted somewhere that you had to pay for, or do you have a server you could bung it on?

And there is always Dreamwidth, which doesn't have ads.

Personally, I pay for my LJ, because I like the extras I get from that.
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From:lproven
Date:September 21st, 2011 11:02 pm (UTC)
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I have been planning to try to host my own site for ages. Not sure I can dedicate suitable hardware to the task, though, nor that I can afford the power bills...

But I can probably find some free space somewhere, I guess.

I don't use LJ enough any more to pay, and I have to be /very/ careful with my spending.
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From:j_lj
Date:September 21st, 2011 09:13 pm (UTC)
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I don't see any ads on LJ and I'm not using any pop-up ads blocker.
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From:lproven
Date:September 21st, 2011 11:02 pm (UTC)
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If you're logging-in automatically, I think you won't.
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From:baljemmett
Date:September 21st, 2011 09:20 pm (UTC)
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The other reasons people seem to move to Dreamwidth are a) it was, for a while, the new cool thing to do (isn't it wonderful what making something invite-only does to demand?) and b) a variety of very questionable things LJ did. Most of which I paid no attention to because I didn't care enough, and hence can't remember, but there were something like a couple of 'big stinks' a year for the last few years.

One that did stick in my mind was the unannounced introduction of some link-hijacking service that stripped people's affiliate IDs off links to Amazon and suchlike and replaced them with LJ's own... That was undone a while later after some screaming, but replaced with a similar hijacking script without the affiliate-tampering bit.
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From:lproven
Date:September 21st, 2011 11:02 pm (UTC)
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Erk, Icky.

Sad how times have changed since it's changed hands at least twice, isn't it? :¬(
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From:nou
Date:September 21st, 2011 10:41 pm (UTC)
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I'm on Dreamwidth because of the no ads thing, yes. Firstly, I want people to be able to read the things I write without being bothered by ads. Secondly, because the users (not the advertisers) are the customers, the development work is focused on fixing bugs and adding features to please the people who have accounts there. Which pleases me.
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From:lproven
Date:September 21st, 2011 11:03 pm (UTC)
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Fair enough, and TFTI.

But does it have a revenue stream at all, then? Is it likely to stick around?
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From:nou
Date:September 21st, 2011 11:12 pm (UTC)
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The revenue stream consists of the paid users. The dw_biz community has more information on how all this works. They don't seem to be overambitious, and they seem to know what they're doing, so I think they'll stick around, yes. I trust them enough to have them host my Chinese food blog, which I've put a huge amount of effort into.
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From:lproven
Date:September 22nd, 2011 12:06 am (UTC)
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Oh, OK, fair enough. Thanks again!
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From:vatine
Date:September 22nd, 2011 06:03 am (UTC)

These days primarily on DW

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The major draw for me was some of the technical bits. Splitting "friends" into "accounts I want on my to-read list" and "accounts I want to give access to" was a most welcome thing.

LJ making a couple of really bad decisions (that may or may not have been reversed since) didn't make me slow down "moving" over to DW (nopes, not shifted any posts from one place to another, just shifted where I primarily post and if/when I take up my bookmeme posting again, it'll probably be posted on DW and cross-posted to LJ again).
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From:watervole
Date:September 22nd, 2011 07:41 am (UTC)
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I hope you stay on either LJ or DW, I don't read blogs, too much effort finding them and you don't get threaded comments.

I don't see LJ ads, so I guess adblock is working just fine.

I started an account on DW because they have a much better search engine. When I wanted to find specific old entries of mine, I could do it on DW, but not on LJ.

I cross-post so that LJ friends can still see what I'm writing.
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From:coth
Date:September 22nd, 2011 11:41 am (UTC)
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I don't pay for LJ, stay logged in, and mostly don't see ads. So, not a problem.

Most of LJ's other putative evils don't bother me either, btw - put it down to being a plain vanilla user for whom the whole business is marginal.
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