Liam Proven ([info]lproven) wrote,
@ 2003-07-11 02:51:00
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Culture: John Wyndham's Centenary
July 10th 2003 was the 100th anniversary of the birth of John Wyndham, one of the formative figures in Golden Age British SF.

To commemorate this, there was a small event at the closest pub to the White Horse, where London fandom used to meet in the 1930s - as plugged in Ansible:

10 Jul [] JOHN WYNDHAM CENTENARY (he was born 10 July 1903), Walkers of
Holburn, Norwich St, London, EC4 -- site of the 1946-1953 White Horse sf
pub meetings. From 7pm. With WH regulars John Christopher (Sam Youd) and
-- on screen, if all goes well -- Arthur C.Clarke.


Wyndham died in 1969, the same year as the first moon landings, but several of his old drinking buddies were there to raise a glass to him. Arguably the Grand Old Man of British SF writers today, Brian Aldiss, was there, as was another of the great disaster novelists, Sam Youd, who wrote (amongst many other names) as John Christopher, amongst other White Horse veterans.

Arthur C. Clarke was one of these - he commemorated those meetings in his splendid, fictionalised account, Tales from the White Hart. Arthur can't travel now, but he sent a video message.

And from a younger generation of writers, Chris Priest.

At a toddler-like 35, I think I was the youngest person there, closely followed by [info]swisstone and long-haired [info]fishlifter - but Wyndham is not forgotten. His books are still in print, thanks to Penguin, and the NFT is doing a short SF season soon, to include the BBC's version of The Day of the Triffids.



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[info]brisingamen
2003-07-10 09:46 pm UTC (link)
I thought I saw you at the bar. It was a good night. I love John Wyndham's writing; he was the first sf writer I can remember reading. And I thought he was well honoured last night.

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 03:19 am UTC (link)
Thought I'd try to post something to indicate there's more to my life than beer, bikes and birds.

Indeed so. Sorry I didn't get to say hello - both you and PK seemed rather... busy. :¬)

It was smaller than I'd hoped, but I enjoyed it - I agree, a good event. Let us hope he continues to be so remembered.

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[info]trav28
2003-07-10 10:30 pm UTC (link)
OMG! Being a child of the 70's I just adore that societal decay image that Day of the Triffids captures so well. I think the BBC did a great version of it - much better than the Howard Keel movie version (sea water, ffs?!).

It's good to see the NFT is supporting genres that many take awith a pinch of salt.

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 03:21 am UTC (link)
Absolutely. I hope to attend some of the screenings.

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Triffids
[info]sheridanwilde
2003-07-11 01:40 pm UTC (link)

No idea about anything else that might be shown, but I'd love to see the BBC Day of the Triffids - one of the best series I can remember from my childhood (though one of the other ones was Battle of the Planets, which didn't stand the test of time, but I've got more confidence in Triffids).

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 01:49 pm UTC (link)
Well, it'll be on at the NFT next month...

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Ah-hah!
[info]sheridanwilde
2003-07-11 01:57 pm UTC (link)

So I see, though it doesn't appear to have details of what date/s it's showing (unless I'm being particularly stupid).

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[info]lproven
2003-07-14 04:06 am UTC (link)
From lower down that page:

NFT2 7.00 Wednesday 27 August

NFT2 4.00 Saturday 30 August

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Ah-hah
[info]sheridanwilde
2003-07-15 09:55 pm UTC (link)

That'd be me being particularly stupid then...

I may still be working around that time, so I reckon I'd be most likely to go to the Saturday showing...

np: The Cure - A Forest (live)</code>

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[info]lproven
2003-07-16 04:18 am UTC (link)
Give me a shout if you do!

Have done Contact Meme thing and various info on profile page.

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ouch
[info]sheridanwilde
2003-07-15 10:06 pm UTC (link)

Not cheap though, is it? £7.50 for non-members (though if I read it right a member can buy discounted (by £1) tickets for up to three other people).

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[info]lproven
2003-07-16 04:18 am UTC (link)
It is pretty much in the West End. That's not atypical. Steep, yeah, but normal. :¬(

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[info]nerdware
2003-07-11 02:13 am UTC (link)
I read a couple of his books at school.

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 03:21 am UTC (link)
They bear rereading, although they're dated now. I read my favourites - Triffids, Kraken, Chrysalids - up to half a dozen times.

I owe Wyndham a debt, in fact. He got me off several months of English lessons. When Triffids was a set book, I'd already read it repeatedly, so read whatever I liked in class 'til the rest of them were done, knocked off a couple of essays and got excellent marks. :¬)

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Skool
[info]vicarage
2003-07-11 06:06 am UTC (link)
I did my O-level extended essay on Chrysalids, Brave New World, 1984, and something else, possibly On the Beach.

Setting me reading as homework was never a chore.

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 06:42 am UTC (link)
#1 and #4 I like; never got on with the heavily-politicized, SF-as-an-excuse stuff, myself. Detest politics. Really ought to try again, though.

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[info]vicarage
2003-07-11 09:13 am UTC (link)
I checked, and the 4th book was Fahrenheit 451.

Checking involved finding my 1982 English exercise book, apparently my theme was

"Individual freedom needs to be increasingly controlled in order to maintain social stability. Discuss"

A pertinent question 2 decades on!

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 09:37 am UTC (link)
It is - and a good choice of books, too...

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[info]nerdware
2003-07-11 08:42 am UTC (link)
I read Triffids during History & Geography. :) I read Chrysalids during my own time. Both were found in the school library.

I also found and read Alan Dead Foster's starwars novel, A Splinter of the Mind's Eye, but that's another school library story. FWIW, I recall nothing of that book.

Reading Wyndham's books after seeing the films added a whole new experience. BTW, the opening lines of Triffics have to be amoung my all time favourites. A classic.

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 09:19 am UTC (link)
:¬)

SotME was rather good. Best Star Wars book I ever read, certainly, not that I read many...

I don't recall the opening lines, though...

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[info]pugwash
2003-07-11 07:10 am UTC (link)
Another Cixen lurking in the undergrowth, eh?

Consider yourself beFriended.

Jezza@cix

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[info]nerdware
2003-07-11 08:43 am UTC (link)
Ahoy there!

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[info]childeric
2003-07-11 03:21 am UTC (link)
Oh wow, I think Wyndham's great. Wish I'd known about this!

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 05:31 am UTC (link)
Couple of people have said that to me. Sorry, I must try to promote things a bit more widely...

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[info]hawkida
2003-07-11 03:46 am UTC (link)
I thought about going along but it wasn't practical in the end. Glad it went well, Wyndham's stuff has always been among my favourite books in the vague way I have favourites.

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 05:31 am UTC (link)
:¬)

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[info]syllopsium
2003-07-11 05:11 am UTC (link)
I've always quite liked Wyndham, but his endings have always been weak - one thing that's tends to annoy me.

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 05:32 am UTC (link)
You think? I like the way some of them (like Triffids) just sort of tail off. Makes you think for yourself - where does this go from here?

Lesser writes would have given in and written sequels. Better to leave it a little open.

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[info]swisstone
2003-07-11 07:19 am UTC (link)
Indeed, lesser writers have.

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 09:01 am UTC (link)
[Guffaw]

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[info]syllopsium
2003-07-11 08:35 am UTC (link)
hmm... maybe it says something about me that I prefer my stories to have some sort of conclusion.

I seem to remember The Kraken Wakes as being one of the worst offenders ending wise, where it carries on in rather good post apocalyptic style for ages before going 'this went on for years then a method of defeating the krakens was found. the end' in the space of about a page and a half.

That's not to say all his stories were like that. I seem to remember Trouble With Lichen and a short story about an invisible multicelled monster ending well. I rather liked the one about the telepaths too.

It's not that I cant cope with stories where the journey is more important than the destination, but I strongly dislike stories where important questions are asked and never answered (without good reason) or deus ex machina solutions.

As to authors that dont know when to stop.. I dearly wish David & Leigh Eddings had never written the Mallorean.

PK

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 09:20 am UTC (link)
I just thought - think - it was part of his style, and never objected.

Malloreon? Was that the one after the Belgariad? Never finished it. But wasn't there another still, after that? 8¬(

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[info]syllopsium
2003-07-11 09:39 am UTC (link)
hmm. true. Thinking about it he kept a reasonable balance; The Midwich Cuckoos ended well too.

Yes the Mallorean followed the Belgariad and reused whole tracts of the original plot. There are later ones, but they're unrelated to the original 2 series -I've not read them as I was so disgusted with the Mallorean.

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[info]lproven
2003-07-11 10:42 am UTC (link)
Quite.

And, indeed, quite. :¬)

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[info]vicarage
2003-07-11 04:02 pm UTC (link)
BBC7 are broadcasting an adaptation of Day of the Triffids on Sat night at 6pm, repeated at midnight

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[info]lproven
2003-07-14 04:09 am UTC (link)
TFTI!

Sadly, I've only just got back from a weekend away...

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[info]wintrmute
2003-08-01 04:47 am UTC (link)
I remember reading all his books when I was just a little thing; its interesting to hear about that event, albeit after it.

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[info]lproven
2003-08-01 07:04 am UTC (link)
Only a brief writeup, I'm afraid.

I've plugged things like this on CIX before now, to little response. Maybe now I should plug 'em on LJ instead...

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[info]tamaranth
2003-08-11 12:43 am UTC (link)
Yo! I've assumed permission to plunder this account for details of the event for That Column (One Last Time Unless They Pay). Hope you don't mind (didn't think you'd appreciate my phoning for permission at 8 am ...)

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[info]lproven
2003-08-15 05:35 am UTC (link)
Oh, feel free! And thanks for the copy of the article... :¬)

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